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Bach Mouthpieces – Lettering Variations

by Bach Loyalist
Timeframe Lettering Image
 circa 1920’s VINCENT BACH, NEW YORK mpc_1920s_NewYorkmpc_1920s_NewYork_1
circa 1920’s VINCENT BACH CORP. NEW YORK
7Cnote Serif font 
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 circa 1930s

VINCENT BACH CORP., NEW YORK

note Serif font 

mpc_1930s_New York
1936

VINCENT BACH CORP., NEW YORK

note Serif font 

mpc_1936_New York
 circa 1940s VINCENT BACH CORP., NEW YORK
7note Serif font 
mpc_1940s_New York_7mpc_1940s_New York_7_1
 circa 1940-’53 VINCENT BACH CORP., NEW YORK
7note Sans Serif font 
mpc_4053_NewYork_7mpc_4053_NewYork_7_1
 circa 1953-’59

 VINCENT BACH CORP. MT. VERNON N.Y.2-1/2C

note loose “,”
note fraction symbol

mpc_5359_MtVernonmpc_5359_MtVernon_1
circa 1960-’64  VINCENT BACH CORP MT VERNON NY
1-1/2Cnote loose “.” on MT & NY
note fraction symbol
mpc_6064_MtVernonmpc_6064_MtVernon_1
circa 1960-’64 VINCENT BACH CORP MT VERNON NY mpc_pre65_MtVernon
circa 1965-’69  VINCENT BACH CORP
1C
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circa 1994-’96  VINCENT BACH
11/2
mpc_9496_Elkhart
circa 1997-’03

 VINCENT BACH

note larger font

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circa 2004  VINCENT BACH
1-1/2Cnote small font
mpc_2004_Elkhart
circa 2007  VINCENT BACH
1-1/2C
mpc_2007_Elkhart

 

Source: Used with permission from TrumpetJunkie.com

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15 comments

Under floden October 11, 2013 - 9:00 am

This is the nice blog site. Really helpful information. Thank you so much!

Karl Breslmair December 10, 2013 - 7:43 am

Dear Sirs!

I´m an Austrian craftsman an appreciate the work of Vincent Bach!
Your website is great and extremly interesting.
Just now I have got a Bach mouthpiece for restoration. It is a 1 1/4 C but the fraction stroke is horizontal. You describe many periods but not the different in the fraction bar. Do you have an idea in which period this mp had been produced? The dealer was “Lechner Bischofshofen”. This shop was founded in 1988. Regards, Karl

Bach Loyalist February 16, 2014 - 9:48 am

I added some additional images of fractions. Check out the Mt. Vernon images from 1960-1965 above for a reference.

marius February 21, 2014 - 6:25 am

Hi, do you make bach mouthpice for french horn?

Bach Loyalist February 21, 2014 - 9:27 am

Yes, Conn Selmer makes Bach french horn mouthpieces. Go to your local music store to find a selection.

MARIUS February 22, 2014 - 9:57 am

it doesn’t exist this mouthpiece…i want Bach mouthpiece for french horn, but to be changed, modified….i want Bach 10, but with narrow rim, with medium cup depth, end 17.70 mm cup diameter. I wish it for medium high register horn…you can do this type of mouthpiece?

Bach Loyalist February 23, 2014 - 11:57 am

You’ll need to connect with a mouthpiece modification type company to have modified to what you want. Have you ever worked with Dillon Music in NJ? Dillonmusic.com

If not, you’ll have to work with your local store repair shop to see what they can do for you… This website is more for history, and information on Bach instruments, not about modifying equipment…

Hope this helps

Bach Mouthpiece Markings October 10, 2014 - 6:19 pm

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Don February 25, 2015 - 9:31 pm

Hi! I’ve got a Vincent Bach Corp., New York trumpet mouthpiece, size 6, with a small capital M directly under the 6 on the throat. MP also has a ’20’s style slanted (as opposed to square) rim. 1) Is this MP from the mid to late ’20’s? 2) What does the M on the throat stand for? Thanks! – Don

Bach Loyalist February 26, 2015 - 7:33 pm

I’ve not seen that marking before. More than likely an indication of the back bore configuration.

Send me an email with high resolution photos and I’ll look more into this. Please send to admin (at) bachloyalist.com

Elneff May 5, 2015 - 9:11 am

There’s a rumor going around, that some of the newer Bach mouthpieces are produced in China, and that you can tell which ones by looking at the typeface on the piece. This sounds strange to me, but could there be some truth to it?

7c? August 8, 2015 - 7:49 pm

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Voltrane December 13, 2015 - 6:33 am

Hello,

I have a “VINCENT BACH CORP.” (with a dot) 7DW mouthpiece with RK engraved after 7DW. Does this mean something (I do not find anything about this in Bach catalogs) or could it be a personnal engraving of the previous owner?
Thanks a lot.

Bach Mouthpiece Eras February 12, 2016 - 7:33 pm

[…] Bach Mouthpieces – Lettering Variations | BachLoyalist is a page a bit like what you describe; Mr. Dankler the mouthpiece salesman has a few comments about early Elkhart (something about them using many of the same blanks and cutters as Mt. Vernon) but I don't know a whole lot about older Bach pieces (the oldest ones I have are from the 1980s) […]

Krazion September 29, 2017 - 4:52 pm

So I was handed down a mouthpiece when i started playing and it’s very strange to me.It’s a Vincent Bach Corp. Mt.Vernon N.Y. That’s all that’s listed, no cup size. its extremely shallow on the inside and rounded to the little hole even, not cupped. I’m a high school student so I’m no genius.

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